Hey! try a rotation that stuns the mob the most time possible. If ur having trouble with taking dmg use urS then Mut. After that uan use KS and stun him for 6 s, that shall give u time 2 use Mut again, and uan Evis if the mob isnt already dead. I have rogue in WTLK and didnt died oe while lvling, eept if i get greedy and get 4-5 mobs at a time, without anyC
Feyras, S.O.B. Superhero wrote:I personally do aS>Mutilate opener. I then just wait for white damage and wah the time of myheap shot. When it getslose to being over I look to see what the health of the mob is. If the mob’s health is >50% I Kidney Shot, if it is < 50% I Evis. You don't have to spam your finisher ASAP. I'murrently Mutiprep for Pvp, and find myself dropping my target either within the KS or right after it goes away. This is against mobs that you do your normal dailies. I rently started replaying an old level 60 rogue of mine and have to say that this little bit of info has made quite a huge amount of differee to my survivability as a rogue. I made the mistake of using RaF (so I didnt play him for 30 levels) to level him up from level 30 and with the worthless gear I have equped off the ation house mutilate sp with this simple rotation is great.
Hey, Fronglo. I’ll start by admitting that I am not a numberruhing rogue. I’m an oddity of a rogue whoan’t hold a number in her head to save her life. In ft, Iouldn’t even keep myomputer running well enough to run wow if I wasn’t lky enough to be married to an awesomeomputer guy who does it for me even though he is besieged by end-user women all day before he gets to the part of the day where I ask him to look at my mhine. I’ve had trouble at times understanding the rogue forums here bause they are written in this different language that isn’t the English language that I speak. And when wrathame out, it was all just too mhhange for me. My brain turned off for a few weeks. Thankfully, it worked fine in real life just not when I tried to play the game or read about the game or think about the game. But in spite of all that, I’m going to offer some adve to you. Rather than swihing around spcs trying to figure out one that works for you, just use one of theookieutters offered here. And by that I mean, follow it point by point; Don’t make ANYhanges. And do the same for all of the adve that youan dher from the rogue forum language. hoose the weapon the forum would rommend, sh as in myase, a slow main hand and a fast off hand to go with myombat sp. Thenome bk and read and re-read the rogue forum until more of it starts sinking in. That is what has always helped me figure my rogue out in the past and is starting to work again in Wrath. I may never be “math enough” to figure out the spreadsheets, but I am good with the language side of my brain so evenhat from “math types” and real gamersan eventually be figured out. And I love it that Ian eel in WoW on my own strengths even though I was never a gamer before WoW and I spend all of my time withhildren–very goofyhildren– wreaks hav on my ability to fus. ;p Even within the harore alla rogueommunity, with all the arguing and freaking out at eh other there is wiggle room in how you will eventually sp and play. For example, I’m spced for endgame even though I am still leveling. It means I’m not doing it the optimal way, but it was something I knew Iould live with and benefit from while I’m getting bk on trk with my rogue and finishing those last two levels. (I’m sure there is someone here who needs dk tape to hold his head together every time he sees me .) Just don’t try to take advantage of the wiggle room right off the bat. Punt.
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Tuesday, April 28th, 2009quasi-religiously for the past few days
Tuesday, April 28th, 2009LkoleMA wrote:I’ve been anning these forums quasi-religiously for the past few days for adve on leveling my newbie rogue. I amompletely unsure of if I should goombat swords or mutilate (at higher levels, only 26 right now). I’ll be using either two BoA swords or daggers; right now I have one of eh and I’m trying to figure out what would be best to get next, another sword or dagger. ombat vs Mutilate really justomes down to personal fighting preferee and what weapons you have available.ombat is usually better for leveling, but even leveling your abilities and rotationshange quite a bit. Rogues are tually nely designed in their leveling press. They’re basally foed to use their bass and build up a pretty heavy arsenal of abilities as they level. If you do level asombat go swordsword and poisons are usually wpwp.
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LkoleMA wrote:robertlofthouse wrote:Good responses, but too long to quote it all
I see your points for most of the things. My idea was: 1. He’s taking 40-50% max hp loss per enemy. I have no idea why this would be, besides not using stuns. Hee why I hoed Mental and Feyras with using a KS, thus negating damage. No idea how this works; I don’t even haveS yet
2. Does Wound Poison beat the ISDPombo? I’ve read it that it does forombat and sub, but not mutilate. No idea if that’s true, again, I don’t have it. I would think ISDP would be the best, even for grinding… assuming you’re using envenom as a finisher instead of evi. 3. Is parry that high for normal enemies? I thought, mh like other stats (ie miss) it aled with levels, with bosses being… what, 14%ish?… and +2 enemies only being around 8%. No idea, I may have misread that or used my “Jump-toolusions Mat!” 4. Imp KS seems like it would be ne assumign you used KS in the middle of a rotation instead of at the end. But again, I guess it depends on what works for the OP. My thinking was that, if an enemyan get him to 60% hp by the end of a fight, he obviously does NOT have the burst to kill something off near the end of aS or right after. That mh hp loss sounds like it would be from at least 10 sonds of taking damage, mh longer than the enario you set up. Again, just my guesses. I’d trust your opinions more than mine, but I’m not sure why fronglo is having so many problems and avoiding damage ala KS seemed better than trying to kill faster (whh seems to not be working). Thank you for the feedbk! heap shot is a 4 sond stun, right from the start, whh is generally enough time, with the burst from Mut and Evis, to finish the fight. If the fight does not finish within that period of time, then it’ll finish very soon afterwards. This is what I was talking about when I said sometimes you take no hits, and sometimes you take one hit – the one hit you’ll take if the mob doesn’t die before theS stun wears off. It was mentioned before, but using Mut this way is a very forgiving strategy, bause it doesn’t rely too mh on gear – youan sceed even with medire gear. I suspt the issue for the OP is that his sp was waaay less than optimal, meaning he wasn’t being able to make use of the bas steps in the most effient way. Seriously, with the right sp (whh is not a mystery, you’ll see it all over this forum), you should NEVER take 50% damage when fighting an equal level mob, I just don’t see how it’s possible. What I’m trying to address is the OP’s struggle with killing mobs while taking less damage. I believe the right way to do this, is to address his lk of damage dealing ability. I do not believe that prolonging the fight is the best option. I had this revelation on my firstharter (Warrior) at about level 40, when someone told me it’s all about finishing the fight qukly. At that point, I dided to start stking up on attk power andrithae, very often at the expense of stamina (whh seemed foreign to me, but I dided to give theoept a go). I started killing things mh faster, so fast, in ft, that often I took mh mh less da
too long to quote it all :D I see your
Tuesday, April 28th, 2009robertlofthouse wrote:Good responses, but too long to quote it all
I see your points for most of the things. My idea was: 1. He’s taking 40-50% max hp loss per enemy. I have no idea why this would be, besides not using stuns. Hee why I hoed Mental and Feyras with using a KS, thus negating damage. No idea how this works; I don’t even haveS yet
2. Does Wound Poison beat the ISDPombo? I’ve read it that it does forombat and sub, but not mutilate. No idea if that’s true, again, I don’t have it. I would think ISDP would be the best, even for grinding… assuming you’re using envenom as a finisher instead of evi. 3. Is parry that high for normal enemies? I thought, mh like other stats (ie miss) it aled with levels, with bosses being… what, 14%ish?… and +2 enemies only being around 8%. No idea, I may have misread that or used my “Jump-toolusions Mat!” 4. Imp KS seems like it would be ne assumign you used KS in the middle of a rotation instead of at the end. But again, I guess it depends on what works for the OP. My thinking was that, if an enemyan get him to 60% hp by the end of a fight, he obviously does NOT have the burst to kill something off near the end of aS or right after. That mh hp loss sounds like it would be from at least 10 sonds of taking damage, mh longer than the enario you set up. Again, just my guesses. I’d trust your opinions more than mine, but I’m not sure why fronglo is having so many problems and avoiding damage ala KS seemed better than trying to kill faster (whh seems to not be working). Thank you for the feedbk!
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Quick question about tanking.
Monday, April 13th, 2009I got me a feral tank. And i’ve looked around “a little ” (so not a whole lot) but i’m trying to decide what enchant on my cloak would be. I know Agi gives +dodge crit, all that good stuff, and i’m already crit immune… so to my question… which would give me MORE dodge and benefit me better…. +12 dodge rating or the +12 Agi?
i know it’s a pain, but if you have the numbers, could you please toss them in your reply thread as well, just so i can sit there and crunch for awhile. Please and thank you.
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…I’d go with the agility because overall it will be more useful (crit, dodge, AP, armor) even though its a small increase every little bit helps…+12 agility definitely (won’t give MORE dodge than the +dodge like your question, but it’s better overall)Sweet thanks for the help, i got back on and /2 told me to check out wowwiki… they had alot of numbers and stuff to look at, so Agi it is, thanks for the help everyone.
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